glass maximized windows

Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

This has been fixed in build 5342. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message

Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...

I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

-- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

Homework, before assumption...

I don't think someone who didn't mention their version is in any position to have attitude.
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How to lose a war in Iraq http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1335#comment-48641 ================================================"Anthonyspt" wrote in message

This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message

This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message

I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

Well thats what you call - By Design. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

Yeh :oP
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Well thats what you call - By Design. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

No he hasn't Kevin - there is NO NDA whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

Yes, There is one for the OEM Beta Tester's, just FYI!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

No he hasn't Kevin - there is NO NDA whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

Nope, there isn't Kevin. There is no NDA for the Windows Vista beta. None whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

Yes, There is one for the OEM Beta Tester's, just FYI!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message No he hasn't Kevin - there is NO NDA whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

Nope, there isn't Kevin. There is no NDA for the Windows Vista beta. None whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message Yes, There is one for the OEM Beta Tester's, just FYI!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message No he hasn't Kevin - there is NO NDA whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

There is no NDA Kevin. The Terms and Conditions for the beta program however restricts us from redistributing downloads from the Connect site. That's *it*.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Nope, there isn't Kevin. There is no NDA for the Windows Vista beta. None whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message Yes, There is one for the OEM Beta Tester's, just FYI!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message No he hasn't Kevin - there is NO NDA whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

Just stop Kevin. This is really annoying to everyone. I could have read that you are not part of the beta program itself at this time. You get yours from your msdn subscription which may not have all of the updated beta info. It is possible that things may have changed that you may not have access to.
-- Jason
Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group. Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.
http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878
MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2 "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

A Couple of Years Ago, when both Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 were getting Beta Tested, We used to have a Rule that said the following: "Any Build that is not getting Released to the General Public via Public Download is Under an NDA!"
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

There is no NDA Kevin. The Terms and Conditions for the beta program however restricts us from redistributing downloads from the Connect site. That's *it*.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Nope, there isn't Kevin. There is no NDA for the Windows Vista beta. None whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message Yes, There is one for the OEM Beta Tester's, just FYI!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message No he hasn't Kevin - there is NO NDA whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

But that was then, and this is now. Times have changed. Please feel free to show us a link which tells us of this NDA.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

A Couple of Years Ago, when both Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 were getting Beta Tested, We used to have a Rule that said the following: "Any Build that is not getting Released to the General Public via Public Download is Under an NDA!"
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message There is no NDA Kevin. The Terms and Conditions for the beta program however restricts us from redistributing downloads from the Connect site. That's *it*.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message As I previously said, There is one for the TAP Beta Tester's, which includes anyone who has access to an Interim Build that is not labeled as a CTP Build! This includes Build 5342 and the Technical Tester's!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message Nope, there isn't Kevin. There is no NDA for the Windows Vista beta. None whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message Yes, There is one for the OEM Beta Tester's, just FYI!
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message No he hasn't Kevin - there is NO NDA whatsoever.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message You just Violated your Microsoft OEM Beta NDA!
"StormChaser" wrote in message I'm running 5354 right now and it has the problem. I have the same thing that you mentioned, Zack. It's a thinner title bar with very faint diagonal lines.
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Actually not necessarily Andre - I had Aero Express for the first day after installing 5342 because by WDDM drivers didn't go through or install. I then went and installed the February CTP drivers from Nvidia (and although not necessarily compatible) I installed away. Whenever I maximised, I could see very faint Glass effects and the title bar was much thinner, but it was almost completely black with a few grey diagonal lines.
After a restart, all appears well and Glass is smooth as ever, but it still could be a graphical problem. Glass isn't 100% up to scratch yet :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.

Im running 5342 x64 and it has been / not been fixed ;)
When i maximize a window the sidebar keeps it's glass effect, while the start bar goes black.
Just tested it, positioned a window so its behind the sidebar and start bar. When i maximize an other window, nothing changes to the sidebar, still see the window behind it. But the start bar goes black and the window aint visible no more. Same thing for the window title bar.
Anyway, i don't think this can be such a big issue. why would people place windows behind the sidebar or even windows start bar??? It would just be nice if the start bar does not change at all like the sidebar does.
fyi ... my sidebar is set to be allways on top.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

This has been fixed in 5342, I don't know what you are talking about, but it was a constant complain in prior builds of Vista before 5342 was released. You have obviously proven to us you are not running Windows Vista 5342 at all.
See screenshot: http://www.mstechtoday.com/screenshots/vista/5342/maximized.PNG -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Anthonyspt" wrote in message This has been fixed in build 5342. Really? Wow, my copy of 5342 must be different than yours...
I think this is a bug, and possibly Video related.
Homework, before assumption...
Anthony
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"StormChaser" wrote in message Whenever you maximize a window, the glass becomes black and opaque. Is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature... it REALLY needs to be removed, or at least make it an option to keep regular glass. It looks really bad.